Interview with The head of French Office in Prishtina, Thierry Reinard,
Journalists: Fazli Rrezja & Fisnik Musa
The head of French Office in Prishtina, Thierry Reinard, said that except Russia, we are to convince other Security Council members for new resolution approval for Kosova. Meanwhile, if Russia threatens with a veto, he said that this could affect new problems. In an interview for news agency “Kosovanews”, the head of French Office says if Kosova’s Institutions take unilateral decisions, they could face legal problems, and this is obviously the reason why he urges for new resolution approval for Kosova, which would repeal the actual 1244 resolution. Nevertheless, he doesn’t mention France’s next step if the resolution wouldn’t be approved at the SC, since, as he says, “doesn’t know the opinion of France recent elected president.
France has sponsored
the draft –resolution for Kosova together with the U.S.A., on the same time Russia
has proposed too a resolution that suggests to continue with the negotiation
process. Do you expect whether there could be a compromise between these two
proposals?
Thierry Reinard: As far
as I know, there is only one draft – resolution at the Security Council,
presented last Friday by the U.S.A. and other Western countries. It is very
interesting since Germany as a Quint member has assisted on the creation of this
document. According to the information that I received from New York, this is
the only existing draft-resolution on the table of the Security Council. During
the Contact Group meeting held time before, Russia had presented a so-called
list of “the main elements that must be included in the resolution”. This is the
only thing that Russia did, and they didn’t propose any official project yet
concerning the draft presented by us.
Russia has warned that
it will veto if the resolution is based on the Ahtisaari plan, how can this
situation be avoided?
Thierry Reinard:
Russian position is still unclear, perhaps we shall know more after two
important meetings in Moscow. The first meeting is between the American
Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice and the Russian president, Vladimir Putin,
and the second with the German foreign minister, Steinmeier, which actually is
in Russia in order to prepare the EU – Russia summit, scheduled for May, 18 in
Samara (Russia).
Kosova’s issue will be
one of the main topics to be discussed during these two meetings, Putin – Rice
and Putin – Steinmeier, so I don’t know yet what results are going to be
reached at. Until now, Russia didn’t threaten officially whether is going to use
the right of veto or not. It was mentioned during declarations of Russian vice-minister for Foreign Affairs, Titov and also by the Russian ambassador at the
Security Council, Churkin. In this context is said and mentioned the use of the veto, nevertheless, at the moment we didn’t hear officially any use of veto. We
have the text and we urge all Security Council members to be positioned and to
analyze it point by point… and when there’s no deal, we put it in brackets.
This is an exercise that is usually used
at the SC, and we are to begin very soon to identify the articles proposed by
Ahtisaari, when Russia admits to repeal resolution 1244.
At the moment I am not
able to say what is going to happen. What we are calling the whole world and
particularly the temporal SC members, like South Africa ,Indonesia, Congo,
Qatar, Peru, Panama, is that these countries to support the resolution. These
African and Latin American countries aren’t informed properly about the
situation in Kosova. We have urged the same countries together with our U.S.
and EU colleagues for support, and we have also showed them why we do support
this draft-resolution and that why we thought Kosova’s status must be addressed
very soon.
Is France ready to
recognize independence of Kosova, if it doesn’t pass in the SC?
Thierry Reinard: At the
moment we don’t want anything like that to happen. You know that it has been
mentioned by different countries of EU that this will cause legal problems. We
need to understand that we urgently need a new resolution mainly because resolution 1244 has to be changed since this resolution does not allow Kosova
to declare its independence. There will be legal conflicts if you declare your
independence. It will really present a problem for us, that’s why I cannot say
what our new president thinks. We don’t have a certain opinion about this
problem, because we are a part of EU, and if we declare our opinion, we could
cause problems within the EU.
Taking in consideration
the will of majority of Kosova and also the reactions of some countries,
particularly of Russia, how close to his independence is Kosova today?
Thierry Reinard: It
depends by your leadership to decide. It will not depend whether Kosova wants
to be independent or not. We know the will of people of Kosova and of its
leadership. We think that the time has come for Kosova status to be resolved.
We think that the main reason why we support a very soon solution in accordance
with Ahtisaari plan, is that we want to close this darken chapter of ex
Yugoslavia separation, and we want to go ahead through the stabilization of
Western Balkans, because we want to work in accordance with European agenda,
not only for Kosova, but also for Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia and
Albania. The problem of Kosova is being blocking yet the process inside Western
Balkans, that’s why it must be resolved.
If Russia uses veto in
the SC, what is going to happen with the plan of chief negotiator, Martti
Ahtisaari?
Thierry Reinard: This
is a huge problem, as I mentioned before, Russia didn’t threaten with the use of
veto also after the SC delegation visit in Kosova.
Ambassadors have
evaluated it as a very useful mission, particularly, those who knew about the
situation here. They have also seen that the stand of the parties involved in
the conflict, have been sufficiently contradictory and there wasn’t any
chance to proximate their stands. The second result of this mission is that
they have also evaluated that status – quo, which is present since 1999, is not
a proper solution. This is obviously what Ahtisaari emphasizes in his report.
The members of Quint agree too with this position of ambassadors. We hope that
to persuade, apart of Russia, other members too, since we know that it is too
difficult to persuade Russia. We think that at the moment there are 14 votes in
favor of the resolution at the SC, meanwhile, regarding to Russia, personally, I
do think that we are going to have problems if it vetoes. CS usually is
committed to reach a consensus. Different European leaders are optimistic for
reaching of a compromise with Russia, maybe not during this month, but at least
until June, because we want this issue to be resolved before summer holidays,
since, during four months of Kosova’s transition period, a much-intensified
agenda new process will start.
How Kosova’s
Institutions are prepared for the transition phase?
Thierry Reinard: I
think that they must know that they have a lot of work to do. It is important
what we do think about the majority leaders which are in power now, are saving
the unity of the working groups, comprised by local and international
authorities.
We do know that there
are still problems for raising the capacities since there are capacity lacks
at Kosova’s administration. AER, BE, USAID, and all other international
donators, are being assisted in the development of these governmental
capacities here. It is going to be a much intensified four monthly agenda,
where, the legal aspects of the Ahtisaari plan must be clearly implemented,
especially during the summer months, but we do believe that they are to do it since
they are very committed.
Belgrade insists to
continue with a new negotiation phase. By your point of view, is there any
place for new talks between Prishtina and Belgrade, taking in consideration
their very contradictory stands?
Thierry Reinard: We
don’t think that there are to be developed new negotiations, since the result
of Ahtisaari plan came as a result of a long and difficult negotiation process.
Serbia’s stand was Kosova to have autonomy and this is not a know position for
the opinion..
Does International
Community have any plan “B”, and what will happen if the situation in Kosova
gets worse?
Thierry Reinard: No,
because we (KFOR and UNMIK) have made a very large plan and they are also
prepared for any possible violence, even though there are no indications for
such a thing by none of parties. The new EU mission is going to bring new
members in the area of policy, justice, and customs. We are prepared for
everything that could happen here.
The future EU presence
in Kosova! Does it mean that Kosovar institutions aren’t able yet to take “the
wheel on their hands to lead the state?
Tierry Reinard: In his
plan, Ahtisaari mentions that Kosovans are going to have the responsibility for
leading Kosova in the new system. The International Civilian Office in Kosova
will be in charge for supervising the implementation of the status agreement.
Also, its role is to supervise whether the status agreement is being respected
or not, and also they are going to be here to acquire the minority rights,
particularly of the serbs. Other roles that EU is going to have in Kosova is the
supervision of the judicial system too, and also the fight against organized crime.
The EU role is totally different by resolution 1244.
And finally, how far is
Kosova for being integrated at the EU?
Thierry Reinard: It
depends on you, from standards, and also from actuating plan of the European
Partnership. The best thing is that we have combined old UNMIK standards with
those of the European integration, dated from 2003-2004, and the whole
standards, 109 codes out of them to be realized, and the people didn’t know
exactly the meaning of the same ones. So, all standards are combined at the EU
agenda. Kosova and its leadership with EU have decided to implement so-called
Actuating Plan of European Partnership, which is too real for Kosova to present
the legislation. This is called as “Acquis Communautaire” and in the case of
Kosova it means “obligations to standardize the laws and EU standards on the
country.
During the next years,
we are going to substitute the Conducting Mechanism of Stabilization –
Association with European Partnership Actuating Plan, which will lead all
Kosova’s legislation to the European existing standards. You are lucky in
Kosova, because of UNMIK presence here since 1999. This was a part of the existent
“Acquis Communautaire”, because the UNMIK rules have been totally based on EU
system. You are in a very favorable position, in comparison with other
countries, when they did start to be integrated at the EU. This is going to
take time, and it all depends how long will take the negotiations for
Stabilization – Association. You are beyond entering the EU house, you are not
so far from, and you are also trying to knock on EU doors.
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